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11-22-2015, 05:07 PM

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You are totally wrong, After first dilute negative they have not told us that it is dilute negative. We would have taken care for second sample. Its not our fault. In the drug policy of Montefiore it is clearly written that for second sample, employee or vounteer should be clearly given an idea that his/her sample is dilute negative and to get correct results, he/she should be counselled for not taking more fluid or water before giving samples. Tell me do you have any explanation on this ? Quote: Originally Posted by TSopp77 you were given two chances and you were told your first sample was too diluted, its your own fault.

11-22-2015, 05:11 PM

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They have not told us that we need to take care of fluid intake before second test. Also, we wrote that we will pay from our pocket for hair test but not listening...........This is disgusting and not logical. Quote: Originally Posted by TSopp77 someone is/has not been 100% honest, if the test says your urine sample was too diluted that means for the second time dont drink a lot of fluids before the test... Tell them you will pay for hair sample to be tested is my best suggestion but I have been there done that in regards to Drug Screens and you have to really overload with fluids to come up as a dilute. and one the 2nd test to do the same thing? after it was informed why the 1st test was a no go? Come on... They need a Urine sample and not a water sample, the 1st time ok they let it slide it happens when they tell you we will give you a second chance (most diluted samples are drug users trying to fool the test) and you still come up diluted. Red flag, you have to look through things from the employers perspective.

11-22-2015, 05:16 PM

I'm a vegan a drink ALOT of water, more than most. Ive had to take drug tests before for jobs and it never game back as diluted and I didn't limit my water intake at all. So I don't know what you story is... Your generalizations on America and Americans sure aren't going to gain you any fans. Also keep referring to your country , your country. Why are you here if yours is so great and our sucks.

11-22-2015, 08:26 PM

15 posts, read 52,786 times Reputation: 14

Sorry for that, I just wanted to forget all what happens and wants to start fresh. People are good here, but policies are bad. that hurts me............nothing more

11-22-2015, 10:31 PM

thgreatalex 402 posts, read 429,482 times Reputation: 340

I have a friend who went through the same thing. She was applying for a job in a hospital as a social worker. Her urine the first time was overly diluted, the second time, it came up positive for amphetemines (exclusively adderall). If your wife had this happen the first time, why did she over drink on the second time? Seems like she is trying to be dishonest about something...

11-22-2015, 11:12 PM

cyn7cyn Location: Sodo Sopa at The Villas above Kenny' s House. 2,492 posts, read 2,717,144 times Reputation: 3888

Is there any possibility that your wife has a shy bladder? If she doesn't do any drugs( which is the usual suspect) maybe she can't pee much and ignorantly added water to increase amount for testing. If your saying that you weren't advised why the first test wasn't valid, it's possible that she might have even added more the next time around. But I have to ask you if you really believe she isn't intentionally prolonging the testing period? Why don't you buy a drugstore test and see if it registers. You could answer several questions with those results.

11-23-2015, 01:53 AM

city living 6,053 posts, read 6,371,645 times Reputation: 7314

Listen, you can talk to them all you want but they have no reason to allow you to take a third test. If your wife failed the first time, even without them telling you why, you could have inquired as to why before she took the second test. There are plenty of Americans who drink TONS of water and do not fail urine drug screens. You keep bashing but they do not necessarily drug test because of all of the addicts you think America has---they do it to avoid any liabilities that may come from said workers. And I know it wasn't testing for alcohol (trust me I probably know more about testing blood/urine/etc. samples than anyone on this site) so you missed my point there. I know it sucks. But you can either talk to them again or move on. Like I said, there are other hospitals that don't require drug tests for volunteers. And if you went to another hospital that does require a drug test, now you know what to do. We have all had things happen to us that haven't been fair---just move on.

11-23-2015, 04:41 AM

LadyR1990 Location: Right Here 4,472 posts, read 9,246,863 times Reputation: 4329

Quote: Originally Posted by DLUSA Thanks to all for responding to my queries on dilute negative urine drug test. Certain things is clear now.:: 1. Policy makers in private for sectors who makes HR policy of drug testing has made life hell to people of America, at least in such types of cases when tested employee is innocent and two times dilute negative drug test is considered as positive test. 2. When they hire international employee such as from India, where vegetarianism is a way of life and alcohol and drug are considered bad for the same way of life. Quest diagnosis kits are not fully studied for such diverse population before making this Quest diagnosis urine test drug screening a gold standard or final blanket ban on prospective employee in private sector. 3. Also, they need to understand creatinine levels are different vegetarians and beef eaters, drinking enough and less water, and also between men and women. 4. DRUG addiction might be very high in this country so as cheaters of urine testing in this country. But why innocent people pay price for that? HR policy makers of America lacks think tank on how to conclude exceptional cases of dilute negative drug screening at least in this case. I've never heard of anyone testing dilute negative. Even my friend who tested positive on 4 different OTC drug tests, passed her drug test in a lab. I am not sure why you think you are the first ever vegetarian to take drug test. My sister was a hard core vegan for a number of years and never had an issue either. You can also eat meat and not red meat. What does that mean for them?

11-23-2015, 04:13 PM

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Who imagined that dilute negative is nothing but cheating. It is the duty of person (employer) to give clear idea that we should drink less water or no water. Also, this is written in their policy that they should clearly mention and convey officially and very clearly not to drink water more. Now they are denying their own policies. What to say blind policy makers and very blind HR professionals. Quote: Originally Posted by thgreatalex I have a friend who went through the same thing. She was applying for a job in a hospital as a social worker. Her urine the first time was overly diluted, the second time, it came up positive for amphetemines (exclusively adderall). If your wife had this happen the first time, why did she over drink on the second time? Seems like she is trying to be dishonest about something...

11-23-2015, 08:41 PM

mrblank 56 posts, read 53,781 times Reputation: 55

sucks I know a guy that had the same problem. His wife was a crackhead and then everyone around the neighborhood starting calling her crackie but her name was Jackie. Totally messed him up.

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